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	<title>Comments on: How Much Do We Know That We Don&#8217;t Know?</title>
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		<title>By: jesskry</title>
		<link>http://krywosa.com/2008/12/10/how-much-do-we-know-that-we-dont-know/#comment-130</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it may not be possible for the university as a whole, but it speaks to creating niche marketing segments to speak to. There are many different facets of a large school that could speak to a variety of students but what I worry is that they arent being looked at that way. They&#039;re typecast as majors or clubs or urban, etc. With so much more to expect from a particular institution, I wonder if its a strategy to consider, especially in search, social media, and communities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it may not be possible for the university as a whole, but it speaks to creating niche marketing segments to speak to. There are many different facets of a large school that could speak to a variety of students but what I worry is that they arent being looked at that way. They&#8217;re typecast as majors or clubs or urban, etc. With so much more to expect from a particular institution, I wonder if its a strategy to consider, especially in search, social media, and communities.</p>
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		<title>By: TimN</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, the biggest challenge we have, as a comprehensive state institution, is getting people to decide on an identity or brand (and no, you can&#039;t use the word &quot;brand&quot; in select company). Some faculty call us a liberal arts college, others a research institution, others a professional school. In a way, we are all these things, a floor wax *and* a dessert topping. In terms of communication, I just keep coming back to John Saxe&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/1/?letter=B&amp;spage=3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blind Men and the Elephant&lt;/a&gt; in terms of how we are everything to everyone.

What would people say is unique about our institution? There&#039;s being on a Great Lake, which many students mention as a draw, but how do you position that as an institutional benefit (especially when you&#039;re getting a foot of snow off said lake)? We&#039;re told that we&#039;re friendly (you betcha!), but again that&#039;s not a reason to choose a school. And yet the real added-value -- things like how undergraduates have an opportunity to do graduate-level research -- are tough elevator speeches.

More broadly, creating identity for the students who attend is a worthwhile project, albeit one that would be subject to interpretation. Many of our students are blue-collar, first-generation, hard-working overachievers. Personally, I like that identity, as a fan of underdog stories, but it would be a tough sell to faculty who would rather cultivate a best and brightest image.

Q: Do you think such a unifying identity for a college is even possible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the biggest challenge we have, as a comprehensive state institution, is getting people to decide on an identity or brand (and no, you can&#8217;t use the word &#8220;brand&#8221; in select company). Some faculty call us a liberal arts college, others a research institution, others a professional school. In a way, we are all these things, a floor wax *and* a dessert topping. In terms of communication, I just keep coming back to John Saxe&#8217;s <a href="http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/1/?letter=B&amp;spage=3" rel="nofollow">Blind Men and the Elephant</a> in terms of how we are everything to everyone.</p>
<p>What would people say is unique about our institution? There&#8217;s being on a Great Lake, which many students mention as a draw, but how do you position that as an institutional benefit (especially when you&#8217;re getting a foot of snow off said lake)? We&#8217;re told that we&#8217;re friendly (you betcha!), but again that&#8217;s not a reason to choose a school. And yet the real added-value &#8212; things like how undergraduates have an opportunity to do graduate-level research &#8212; are tough elevator speeches.</p>
<p>More broadly, creating identity for the students who attend is a worthwhile project, albeit one that would be subject to interpretation. Many of our students are blue-collar, first-generation, hard-working overachievers. Personally, I like that identity, as a fan of underdog stories, but it would be a tough sell to faculty who would rather cultivate a best and brightest image.</p>
<p>Q: Do you think such a unifying identity for a college is even possible?</p>
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